Talk Session 3: Enterprise AI

Scaling Up Config-Driven Multi-Agent Networks with Neuro SAN

Daniel Fink — AI Engineering Lead, Cognizant

Sunday, August 2 · Compass Stage · 01:34:05–01:41:17 · afternoon stream

Two and a half years ago Cognizant AI Lab concluded that the glue code of agents calling agents was the noise, so they lifted the whole agent network into configuration files — which let non-engineers build systems, and grew the corporate intranet into a network of ~200 leaf agents that cut ticket volume by about 30%.

TL;DR

  • The origin is a pragmatic call: while experimenting with multi-agent systems two and a half years ago, the team realized the glue code — agents calling agents, agents calling tools, tools calling back — was the noise obscuring the actual work. So they lifted it out and described the whole network in configuration files. That became Neuro SAN.
  • Config-driven design produced three emergent wins: a multi-agent system can call another multi-agent system as a tool (agentic webs, nestable ad infinitum, and equally able to call MCP or A2A servers); standardized invocation makes testing itself data-driven; and since the config files are just forms waiting to be filled in, you get multi-agent systems vibe-coding other multi-agent systems.
  • You don't need to wait for the next great model. The real win is decomposing the problem so a smaller model can handle it — more reliably and more cheaply.
  • Internal proof point: their corporate intranet now runs ~200 leaf agents coordinated by AAOSA (fronting ServiceNow, Salesforce, PeopleSoft), and ticket volume dropped roughly 30% after deployment.

Key Points

Where Neuro SAN came from, and how it's structured (~01:34–01:36)

The speaker is from Cognizant AI Lab — a "big R, little D" group of maybe 30–40 people centered in San Francisco with a contingent in Bangalore. His job is taking promising research and pushing it out so it can be scaled up.

Neuro SAN is the flagship example. Two and a half years ago, experimenting with multi-agent systems, the team quickly realized that the glue code of agents calling other agents was the noise in what they were actually trying to do — so they lifted it out. The result is a configuration-driven system where agents call other agents, agents call coded tools, and coded tools can call back into the agent system, with everything described in configuration except the coded tools themselves.

Every node in the network declares upward to its upchain callers: what it can do, what information it needs to operate, and who it can talk to — plus an overall system prompt. One bit of secret sauce he highlights: the ultimate upchain is the user. For secure credentials there's a side channel they call sly_data, so tokens you never want in the chat stream can travel separately.

Three things the config-driven design made possible (~01:36–01:38)

Two early lessons first:

  • You don't need the next great model to boost capability. The real win is breaking problems down so a smaller model can handle them — more reliably and more cheaply.
  • Given the right tools, all sorts of people start building multi-agent systems. Even their marketing people produced genuinely good ideas and tools that are still in use today.

The emergent capabilities:

  1. Agentic webs. Once you've built a multi-agent system, it's easy for it to call another multi-agent system as a tool, ad infinitum — and equally to call MCP servers, A2A servers, or whatever other agent system you want.
  2. Data-driven testing. Because the common tooling for invoking agents — secrets included — is standardized, testing becomes data-driven in itself: "this is the interaction I want to have" is just data.
  3. Multi-agent systems vibe-coding multi-agent systems. Since agentic systems are described by JSON/HOCON files, those files are just forms to fill in. So they now have multi-agent systems that generate other multi-agent systems, callable as a "perishable thought" or downloadable to become part of the larger system.

Case study: the corporate intranet and AAOSA (~01:38–01:40)

The slide shows concentric circles: at the center is what they call the front man, the root of the system, calling out to middle-tier agents, with leaf agents in the outer ring doing the actual work.

The application is a corporate intranet — the company homepage you look at at least weekly. HR, finance, and IT all have different needs and different agents, yet everybody needs access to all of them. Tying it together is a prompting infrastructure called AAOSA, whose design principle is that whoever is answering the current question knows nothing, but knows who else to call. The question trickles down so HR, legal, and the rest each answer their own facet, and as information comes back up there's an aggregation of knowledge along the way.

They convinced their corporate IT department to eat their own dog food. That deployment now coordinates roughly 200 leaf-level agents via AAOSA, fronting ServiceNow, Salesforce, PeopleSoft, and the rest. He describes the scaling as "ridiculous," and the results show up directly in ticket counts: on the chart, a vertical line marks deployment, after which overall tickets dropped about 30% — the agent system was handling requests better than people overall.

Open source and what's next (~01:40–01:41)

  • The stack is freely available and agreeably licensed; he encourages people to try it.
  • They look forward to working with the AAIF (Agentic AI Foundation) to make it available in the Linux Foundation.
  • A bring-your-own-key site is coming (the system already supports BYOK) where you can vibe-code your own multi-agent systems.

Quotes

"We quickly realized that the glue code of agents calling other agents was the noise in what we were really trying to do. And so we wanted to lift that up." (~01:34)

The founding move behind Neuro SAN: remove the glue code from the problem rather than write it better.

"We don't really need to wait for the next great model in order to boost our capability. The real win is breaking your problems down so that a smaller model can handle it — and handle it more reliably and more cheaply for that matter." (~01:36)

A deliberately contrarian note at a conference full of "wait for the next generation."

"The coordinator doesn't know anything but the people down below do." (~01:39)

AAOSA in one line: the coordinator's value is knowing whom to ask, not knowing the answer.

提到的專案與資源 / Projects & Resources

名稱 Name 說明 Description 備註 Notes
Neuro SAN (neuro-san) Cognizant AI Lab 的設定驅動多 agent 編排框架,用 HOCON 設定檔描述 agent 網路 Cognizant AI Lab's configuration-driven multi-agent orchestration framework; agent networks defined in HOCON config files 開源:cognizant-ai-lab/neuro-san-studio;官方頁面
AAOSA Adaptive Agent-Oriented Software Architecture,Neuro SAN 用來決定路由與委派的協定 / 提示架構 The protocol and prompting architecture Neuro SAN agents follow to route and delegate tasks 逐字稿聽成 "AOSA"
sly_data 讓憑證等機密繞過對話流傳遞的側通道 Side channel that carries credentials and other secrets outside the chat stream 逐字稿聽成 "slide data"
HOCON Neuro SAN 設定檔格式(JSON 的超集) The configuration file format used by Neuro SAN (a JSON superset) 逐字稿聽成 "hookon files"
Cognizant 企業內網 agent 網路 / Cognizant intranet agent network 約 200 個 leaf agent,接 ServiceNow / Salesforce / PeopleSoft ~200 leaf agents fronting ServiceNow, Salesforce, PeopleSoft Cognizant AI Lab 有公開部落格記述此案例
AAIF (Agentic AI Foundation) Linux Foundation 底下的 agentic AI 基金會,他們計畫將 Neuro SAN 貢獻進去 The Linux Foundation's agentic AI foundation; the intended home for Neuro SAN 逐字稿聽成 "AIF";貢獻狀態待確認

逐字稿勘誤 / Transcript Corrections

字幕原文 Heard as 應為 Should be
Daniel Frink Daniel Fink
Neurosan Neuro SAN / neuro-san
AOSA AAOSA
slide data sly_data
hookon files HOCON files
ATA servers A2A servers
Peopleoft PeopleSoft
aent / multi-aent agent / multi-agent
AIF AAIF (Agentic AI Foundation)
"add infinite item" ad infinitum

待確認 / To Verify

  • 講者說內網部署後工單下降約 30%;Cognizant AI Lab 公開部落格則提到五個月內支援工單下降 50%。兩個數字可能對應不同時間點或不同度量,需比對投影片。/ He states a ~30% drop in tickets; Cognizant AI Lab's public blog cites a 50% drop within five months. The two may refer to different windows or metrics — check the slide.
  • Neuro SAN 貢獻給 AAIF / Linux Foundation 的狀態:截至查證時,AAIF 公開的專案與會員名單中未見 Cognizant 或 Neuro SAN,講者的說法應屬規劃中。/ As of verification, neither Cognizant nor Neuro SAN appears in AAIF's published project or member lists — his statement reads as forward-looking.
  • 「bring your own key 網站」的名稱與上線時間未提及。/ Name and launch date of the bring-your-own-key site were not given.
  • 投影片上被他略過的「其他一些東西」(config-driven 的其他好處)無法從逐字稿還原。/ The additional config-driven benefits he "glazed over" on the slide can't be recovered from audio.

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